At first it might seem that if God created all things, then evil must have been created by God. However, evil is not a “thing” like a rock or electricity. You cannot have a jar of evil. Evil has no existence of its own; it is really the absence of good. For example, holes are real but they only exist in something else. We call the absence of dirt a hole, but it cannot be separated from the dirt. So when God created, it is true that all He created was good. One of the good things God made was creatures who had the freedom to choose good. In order to have a real choice, God had to allow there to be something besides good to choose. So, God allowed these free angels and humans to choose good or reject good (evil). When a bad relationship exists between two good things we call that evil, but it does not become a “thing” that required God to create it.
Perhaps a further illustration will help. If a person is asked, “Does cold exist?” the answer would likely be “yes.” However, this is incorrect. Cold does not exist. Cold is the absence of heat. Similarly, darkness does not exist; it is the absence of light. Evil is the absence of good, or better, evil is the absence of God. God did not have to create evil, but rather only allow for the absence of good.
God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation, not choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their “programming.” God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether or not we wanted to serve Him.
As finite human beings, we can never fully understand an infinite God (Romans 11:33-34). Sometimes we think we understand why God is doing something, only to find out later that it was for a different purpose than we originally thought. God looks at things from a holy, eternal perspective. We look at things from a sinful, earthly, and temporal perspective. Why did God put man on earth knowing that Adam and Eve would sin and therefore bring evil, death, and suffering on all mankind? Why didn’t He just create us all and leave us in heaven where we would be perfect and without suffering? These questions cannot be adequately answered this side of eternity. What we can know is whatever God does is holy and perfect and ultimately will glorify Him. God allowed for the possibility of evil in order to give us a true choice in regards to whether we worship Him. God did not create evil, but He allowed it. If He had not allowed evil, we would be worshipping Him out of obligation, not by a choice of our own will.
I am more enlightened because of this article.This has changed my perspective and given insight into the thought processes of God. Wowed
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Did cancer, tornadoes, tidal waves, earthquakes, AIDs etc choose to be evil or would those have been created by god? Or do you not consider the suffering these things cause a form of evil?
I’m thinking if you ever saw someone (or have seen someone) waste away before your eyes due to being eaten alive by cancer, you’d probably have no problem agreeing it’s a firm of uncaring evil that no all-good god could or would ever create.
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People die. More from heart attacks than anything else. Cancer is the second most common cause of death. => http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Seeing someone dying from cancer is not an uncommon experience, and it is a painful experience. Dying from cancer is worse.
Is there a good way to die? What about dying on a cross as a sacrifice for your sins and mine?
We all die. What then? If you don’t believe in God (the definition of Godless) then using the fact we all die as proof is sort of a circular argument. That is in fact the basis of your argument.
Of course, you know there is nothing after death. How do you know? You just know.
On the other hand, what if death is not the end? What if the Bible is true? How then does God’s offer of salvation figure in to the equation? Is death, the punishment for disobedience to God, just the price we pay for salvation? For life in eternity.
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“Seeing someone dying from cancer is not an uncommon experience, and it is a painful experience. ”
Then you would know it’s a sort of evil that your god supposedly would have created.
“What about dying on a cross as a sacrifice for your sins and mine?”
You’re kidding me, right?
People die in more horrible ways all over the place and they sure didn’t know they were going to be raised from the dead in three days.
You’ve been emotionally blackmailed.
“We all die. What then? If you don’t believe in God (the definition of Godless) then using the fact we all die as proof is sort of a circular argument.”
What are you talking about?
“On the other hand, what if death is not the end? What if the Bible is true?”
What if any of the other holy books is right? What if you die and wake up and see Odin?
Not sure what your point is here.
It seems obvious that your god would have created evil as well as good. That’s your twisted theology, not mine. At least be honest enough to realize that some of those evils have no choice. They just are. Those evils would have been created by your god and so you can’t hide behind the ‘we deserve it because we’re fallen’ nonsense of an argument like you try to do in your post.
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You are not sure what my point is here? It is also rather obvious you don’t understand the Bible.
You say I have been emotionally blackmailed? Yet you are the one who cannot deal with evil. You cannot even deal with the fact your argument is circular. THINK!
You don’t like the way things are. You cannot imagine any decent God would not make His universe His way. Therefore, the fact you don’t like what you call evil proves there is no God.
Did God create evil? Some would argue there is no such thing as evil, that evil is simply the absence of God. I doubt that is entirely true. I expect the Egyptians were quite unhappy with the ten plagues God punished them with. Were those plagues evil? Did God created them?
Do you have children? How do you discipline them?
Is my theology twisted? It is what I believe, but I did not create it. Did I write the Bible? Did I ever claim to be God? The Bible is a long-time best seller written over a 1500 year period by about 40 authors, men inspired by our Creator. The subject is our savior. Even if you do not believe Jesus is God, it is foolish to be so ignorant of the most famous and influential man who ever lived.
The world is as God made it. After stubbornly resisting for decades, I finally just accepted the only explanation for why we exist that makes any sense. When are you going to stop griping and pretending to be wiser, more courageous, or whatever it is that feeds your ego? Look around you. Creation is infinite, and it is not about you or me.
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Dear godless;
I hope that you will forgive me for my delay in responding. I assure you it was not intentional. I wll now attempt to answer your questions here; as I believe you are entitled to a response.
Did cancer, tornadoes, tidal waves, earthquakes, AIDs etc choose to be evil or would those have been created by god?
Are the ripples that roll from the stone tossed into the water “EVIL” because they disturb the peaceful waters? I do not believe they are. Nor the stone, created by God, evil for causing the ripple or, the person who tossed the stone evil for doing so. I do not believe these things to be evil. Thus, I believe the ripples are, like all things perceive as evil, the result of something.
You perceive cancer, tornados, tidal waves, earthquakes, AIDS, etc. to be “EVIL” and perceive them as having “free will.” Neither are accurate perceptions. All of which you mention are the result of something. The weather is a result of conditions being ripe for each. Cancer and AIDS are equally the result of something. Allow me this one consideration: “Would you still consider the tornado, earthquake and tidal waves evil if they caused no devastation what-so-ever?” Probably not. Certainly cancer and AIDS are devastating; but would you consider them “evil” if they held no greater outcome than the common cold? Each of these, and many more medical conditions are, like the case of the ripple, the result of something (else).
The result(s) of each item you mention may cause us pain as a result of the devastation they each cause – but equally there is happiness as a result of their causing no devastation in our lives. Equally a result and perception of the individual’s outcome. Perception is inherent in each of us. I believe, as created by God, we have built into us “perception” and “free will.”
I’m thinking if you ever saw someone (or have seen someone) waste away before your eyes due to being eaten alive by cancer, you’d probably have no problem agreeing it’s a firm of uncaring evil that no all-good god could or would ever create.
In response: I have, seen much of these devastations in my own life. Having lost an uncle to cancer and even more closely associated, I have lost a 15 year old daughter to cancer. I too have had massive lesions in my lungs (of which calcified). I have Polio (since 1954), a heart condition, 8 vertebrae in my neck of which are fusing together and may leave me paralyzed in time……..(just to mention a few) and, in NO WAY do I consider these “EVIL.” Nor do I even remotely consider these created by God to be evil…. each of these, as perceived in my life, were the result of something outside of God and have certainly been devastating in my life and the lives of my family.. but they were no more than “ripples” in our tranquility ….. The fact that I can walk and run, my tumors calcified and my neck gives me no pain is a blessing given by a Gracious and Loving God….. That my friend is GOOD and not evil – and I give thanks and praise to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob for these blessings……. That’s how I perceive all the devastation in my life – my “Faith” and “free will” at work.
May the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bless and keep you and yours, my friend.
Michael
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